Comments on: A Wire Runs Through It http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/ Modern Residential Architecture Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:12:20 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Bruce http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-509 Bruce Wed, 19 May 2010 17:44:09 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-509 Yeah, we're definitely past it at this point... but your future-proofing sounds solid (and kinda' sorta like someone I wish I had done myself.) Yeah, we’re definitely past it at this point… but your future-proofing sounds solid (and kinda’ sorta like someone I wish I had done myself.)

]]> By: Scott http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-323 Scott Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:16:31 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-323 There's a 17,000 sq ft contemporary house designed by Shim Sutcliffe in Rosedale called Integral House on Roxborough on the Don Valley Ravine in Toronto that employs LED's extensively. I think that in this case it's more of an issue with respect to the accessibility of the fixtures (they are around the exterior of the house behind a double wall of sandblasted glass). There’s a 17,000 sq ft contemporary house designed by Shim Sutcliffe in Rosedale called Integral House on Roxborough on the Don Valley Ravine in Toronto that employs LED’s extensively. I think that in this case it’s more of an issue with respect to the accessibility of the fixtures (they are around the exterior of the house behind a double wall of sandblasted glass).

]]> By: Steve http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Steve Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:51:40 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-322 I agree with Jesper as well. I work as an EE for an MEP and we deal with clients who want LED a lot and in the end it rarely works for large facilities which means it an even worse idea for home users. CFL and plain ol' fluorescent have a longer life, better color and are not that difficult to maintain. I agree with Jesper as well. I work as an EE for an MEP and we deal with clients who want LED a lot and in the end it rarely works for large facilities which means it an even worse idea for home users. CFL and plain ol’ fluorescent have a longer life, better color and are not that difficult to maintain.

]]> By: Jeremy Bell http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-306 Jeremy Bell Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:27:32 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-306 Yeah, we're definitely past it at this point... but your future-proofing sounds solid (and kinda' sorta like someone I wish I had done myself.) Yeah, we’re definitely past it at this point… but your future-proofing sounds solid (and kinda’ sorta like someone I wish I had done myself.)

]]> By: Scott http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-305 Scott Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:22:14 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-305 I did the same regarding wireless and have full coverage, but my question was more directed I guess to futureproofing for hardwired applications such as HD (wireless HD is a long way from primetime and when it arrives it will be expensive) or audio. As the cable is so cheap and I ran it myself, I pulled 1 RG6 for cable TV and/or CATV cams and 6 cats to each room (including bathrooms) for future proofing as follows (one can just terminate in a blank wallplate where not required): - 2 for possible HD component audio/video or HDMI baluns; - 1 for IPTV capability, which many HDTV's are now including on their sets; - 1 for gigabit ethernet if I want a wired connection; and - 2 in case I ever want to put in a whole house cat5 wired audio system, but I use Sonos wireless, which is awesome. I also ran RG6 and cat5e to a front doorbell and front and side yard cams (but I only so far have used the front doorbell). And then a couple RG6's to the roof in case I ever want to put up a satellite and/or antenna (the latter of which can give you free over-the-air HD in Toronto). (You're probably past the stage of adding more cable but maybe this info might be of interest to others.) I did the same regarding wireless and have full coverage, but my question was more directed I guess to futureproofing for hardwired applications such as HD (wireless HD is a long way from primetime and when it arrives it will be expensive) or audio. As the cable is so cheap and I ran it myself, I pulled 1 RG6 for cable TV and/or CATV cams and 6 cats to each room (including bathrooms) for future proofing as follows (one can just terminate in a blank wallplate where not required):

– 2 for possible HD component audio/video or HDMI baluns; – 1 for IPTV capability, which many HDTV’s are now including on their sets; – 1 for gigabit ethernet if I want a wired connection; and – 2 in case I ever want to put in a whole house cat5 wired audio system, but I use Sonos wireless, which is awesome.

I also ran RG6 and cat5e to a front doorbell and front and side yard cams (but I only so far have used the front doorbell). And then a couple RG6’s to the roof in case I ever want to put up a satellite and/or antenna (the latter of which can give you free over-the-air HD in Toronto).

(You’re probably past the stage of adding more cable but maybe this info might be of interest to others.)

]]> By: Jeremy Bell http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-304 Jeremy Bell Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:07:11 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-304 I totally agree - LED just isn't there. I'm aware of LED-specific fixtures that are better than retrofits, but still... I couldn't imagine investing in the technology quite yet. One day perhaps, but just not now. Way too much risk in my opinion. Re: Cat 6, we have 2 runs in most rooms... wherever there's cable, we ran Cat 6. but we also ran another run to where a desk might be. In the end, I'll have everything blanketed with wireless network, so I'm not too worried about internet connectivity throughout the house. I totally agree – LED just isn’t there. I’m aware of LED-specific fixtures that are better than retrofits, but still… I couldn’t imagine investing in the technology quite yet. One day perhaps, but just not now. Way too much risk in my opinion.

Re: Cat 6, we have 2 runs in most rooms… wherever there’s cable, we ran Cat 6. but we also ran another run to where a desk might be.

In the end, I’ll have everything blanketed with wireless network, so I’m not too worried about internet connectivity throughout the house.

]]> By: Scott http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-303 Scott Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:01:28 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-303 Btw, I've extensively researched LED and it's not ready for prime time as far as I can see. Also, the cost you have to pay for the lumens you get is very very high. However, for specific and specialized applications, such as areas where bulb-changing is very difficult, you can't have heat generated, etc. it might be be a good solution. As for the cat6, how many runs do you have to each room? Btw, I’ve extensively researched LED and it’s not ready for prime time as far as I can see. Also, the cost you have to pay for the lumens you get is very very high. However, for specific and specialized applications, such as areas where bulb-changing is very difficult, you can’t have heat generated, etc. it might be be a good solution.

As for the cat6, how many runs do you have to each room?

]]> By: Scott http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-302 Scott Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:57:19 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-302 It is not cheap - about $200 per cat5e/6 balun pair (which tranmits component video, L/R analog & digital audio and IR signals), $100 for the IR receiver and $1,400 (all USD) for a matrix switch to serve 8 rooms, but that means you can share one or more HD cable boxes. Also nice if you want to keep recorded video in one central place. It is not cheap – about $200 per cat5e/6 balun pair (which tranmits component video, L/R analog & digital audio and IR signals), $100 for the IR receiver and $1,400 (all USD) for a matrix switch to serve 8 rooms, but that means you can share one or more HD cable boxes. Also nice if you want to keep recorded video in one central place.

]]> By: Jeremy Bell http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-299 Jeremy Bell Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:52:19 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-299 We've definitely considered distributing HD via Cat 6, however the hardware is still pretty expensive to do so... we may transition over at some point in the future (but I'm currently planning on using Apple TV to handle most of the video... beyond a cable box in a few rooms). As for the wiring itself, it was handled by our electrician. We’ve definitely considered distributing HD via Cat 6, however the hardware is still pretty expensive to do so… we may transition over at some point in the future (but I’m currently planning on using Apple TV to handle most of the video… beyond a cable box in a few rooms).

As for the wiring itself, it was handled by our electrician.

]]> By: Scott http://www.360winnett.com/2009/02/17/a-wire-runs-through-it/comment-page-1/#comment-298 Scott Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:47:41 +0000 http://www.360winnett.com/?p=681#comment-298 I agree with going with cat6, given the incremental cost and higher speeds. Did you give any thought to distributing HD around the house using cat6 baluns? (instead of paying for an HD box beside every HDTV). Also, who did your cat6 wiring? I agree with going with cat6, given the incremental cost and higher speeds. Did you give any thought to distributing HD around the house using cat6 baluns? (instead of paying for an HD box beside every HDTV).

Also, who did your cat6 wiring?

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